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the Zope 3 wiki has moved! --simon, Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:12:11 -0700 reply

As part of zope.org cleanup, this wiki has been moved to a more up-to-date server, currently: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 . The "old one":http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FrontPage1 has been made read-only and may go away soon. Please use the new one instead! See these discussion threads for more details: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites/2982 and thereafter.

You're receiving this email because you were subscribed to the old wiki. Subscriptions have been transferred to the new wiki. There is a change: you will now be notified only of comments and new pages, not all edits, by default. If you want to see all edits as before, go to http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FrontPage1/subscribeform , enter your email address, unsubscribe and resubscribe yourself clicking the "all edits" option. (The more people that do this, the better, for oversight and spam prevention.)

Please contact me or reply on the zope websites list/newsgroup if you have any questions or problems at all.

-Simon, simon@joyful.com

Cheers

... --simon, Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:57:58 -0700 reply

We have a new skin - see Kevin's announcement at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites/3034

... --pedz, Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:22:23 -0700 reply

Very nice new skin.

  1. When I go to the preferences, the search box is done twice. The second time looks half complete. I'm using Safari 2.0.4 (latest).
  2. How about a place to track issues with the wiki?

... --simon, Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:02:48 -0700 reply

pedz, I can't reproduce this problem with Safari 2.0.4. Anyone else ? Wiki issues - a site-zope3wiki category at http://zwiki.org/IssueTracker ? Or a small tracker somewhere out of the way right in this wiki ?

... --Wheat, Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:12:55 -0700 reply

I've seen this issue intermitently in my Safari. I'll see if I can get it reproducing reliably and then see if I can make it go away. Might not look at this for a bit as I'm off to Plone Con 2006 for the week soon.

Maybe we should think about setting up a zope-web tracker for all things Zope web?

From Baiju Muthukadan Mon Oct 23 23:37:18 -0700 2006 From: Baiju Muthukadan Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:37:18 -0700 Subject: Message-ID: <20061023233718-0700@wiki.zope.org/zope3>

I have created a WebsiteTodo page for listing TODO items. Let's use/update it for the time being to track issues.

... --simon, Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:08:39 -0700 reply

The wiki has been moved to a btree folder, and all subtopics got reordered alphabetically as a result. Hopefully not too disruptive.

From Baiju Muthukadan Sun Oct 29 05:58:59 -0800 2006 From: Baiju Muthukadan Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 05:58:59 -0800 Subject: Message-ID: <20061029055859-0800@wiki.zope.org>

May be we have to reparent WikiUsers page under FrontPage1?.

... --simon, Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:07:51 -0800 reply

Wikis were down this morning, I'm not quite sure why. I have been working on the skin system so probably my fault, my apologies.

... --simon, Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:07:20 -0800 reply

I've created http://wiki.zope.org/AboutThisSite for general announcements/discussion pertaining to all wiki.zope.org wikis, subscribe there to receive those emails.

... --simon, Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:59:41 -0800 reply

I turned off automatic subtopics links in the zope3 wiki, please see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites/3113/focus=3113 .

... --simon, Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:58:11 -0800 reply

Reparenting pages now requires a username in options. This should reduce junk reparent mails.

... --simon, Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:59:18 -0800 reply

Also, wiki.zope.org was down for an hour or so yesterday, possibly due to a hosting provider migration. Sorry for the outage.

... --simon, Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:53:43 +0000 reply

The server was down for a day due apparently to db corruption. It has been restored from a 2007/02/14 04:13 MST backup; any changes since then will need to be redone. Sorry for the disruption.

... --simon, Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:14:44 +0000 reply

The joyful.com/zwiki.org/wiki.zope.org server was down for 19 hours due to some insane apache/zope/qmail/curl deadlock. Service has been restored.

... --simon, Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:07:10 +0000 reply

Another outage, zope restart problems.

... --simon, Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:14:44 +0000 reply

An update on the wiki.zope.org/*.zwiki.org server for 2007/3/7:

Uptime troubles and investigations continue, and there have been significant outages as I haven't always been able to respond quickly. Thanks for your patience; we are making progress.

  • Yesterday, an automated zope restart failed because of an error related to the (new) permanent zeo cache. I have gone back to temporary zeo cache.
  • Today, zope stopped responding as both threads blocked trying to send mail. (I was able to see this from the traceback in event.log when I killed them.) Some sort of deadlock with qmail. This has been happening before so it's good to pinpoint it. I will switch to MaildropHost? asap which may help.

I have been watching the server processes and tuning various things. Sascha Welter implemented http conditional-get handling for zwiki, and also configured httpcaches for several of the (dynamic) front pages. We have reduced cpu load a lot, and made loading of previously-visited pages a lot more snappy!

(Note there is an open issue with conditional-get: Firefox and Mozilla users with default settings will often have to reload after an edit to see the changes. We have some ideas to prevent this, until then I might have to revert this feature.)

Edit operations, especially those touching many pages, can still be rather slow as we are still memory-constrained (~250M quota). The server is currently running two zope threads with cache-size 3000. When it exceeds quota (be it through normal growth or memory leak) it is restarted; this is still happening one or more times per day. Restarting and warming up the caches is quite slow (can be 5-10 minutes if I'm not mistaken).

I have gone from 7-day to 2-day nightly packs to keep zodb size around the 1G mark (and within the 8G disk quota).

Martijn Faassen is pursuing a possible new, beefier hosting situation.

Thanks also to Sascha Welter, Michael Haubenwallner, Christian Theune and anyone else I've forgotten, for dropping by #zwiki on irc.freenode.net and helping to troubleshoot and fix issues.

Cheers! - Simon

PS I seem to have too many places to post such news: - zope-web list/gmane.comp.web.zope.websites newsgroup - http://wiki.zope.org/AboutThisSite - http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/AboutThisSite - http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/AboutThisSite - http://zwiki.org/GeneralDiscussion I will probably pick just the first 2 or 3 henceforth.

new wiki.zope.org server --Simon Michael, Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:21:57 +0000 reply

Zopistas - I'm pleased to announce that wiki.zope.org has moved to a more powerful server. You should now or very soon see wiki.zope.org pointing to 194.109.109.175. This is also the machine hosting foundation.zope.org, kindly provided by amaze.nl.

We are in shake-down mode - all wikis should be working as before, including mail-out and mail-in. There is one open issue - some pages are giving UnicodeDecodeError? (http://zwiki.org/1330 , help welcome) - please report any others.

More details:

ZSyncer? worked like a champ here. I used it to transfer all the wikis over in one shot last week, did the testing, and when dns changed today, did one more sync to transfer the recent changes.

old server: 256M, 4-cpu VPS, zope 2.9.4, zeo, cache-size 3000 new server: 768M, 1-cpu VPS, zope 2.10.3, non-zeo for now, cache-size 30000

I haven't measured much speedup of transactions on the new server - a mild slowdown, in fact, for reasons unknown (single vs 4 cpus ?). But zope finally has enough ram to breathe, so I expect things to feel quicker, and much more consistent. Restarts now take 10s instead of 3 minutes, and will hopefully be a rare manual event.

Yay! Thanks to Martijn Faassen, Bas van der Linden, and Andrew Sawyer for their help.

I am available for consulting work! Check out the updated http://joyful.com to find out more.

Best, -Simon

... --Anton, Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:17:29 +0000 reply

Hi, I found some bugs on this site:

  • If you click on All Pages in this Wiki then you get a site error (to precise a UnicodeDecodeError?)
  • if you click on search this wiki button on top, and the search field is empty, you a UnicodeDecodeError?

Stephane

... --simon, Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:35:44 +0000 reply

I've added a workaround which seems to fix those pages with UnicodeDecodeErrors. There are other places such as the contents and recent changes which still can break. See http://zwiki.org/1330 for current status.

... --Stephane, Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:50:00 +0000 reply

Yes..

  • All Pages in this Wiki still breaks
  • search this wiki with an empty search string still breaks

Stephane

wiki.zope.org heads-up --Simon Michael, Tue, 15 May 2007 04:45:49 +0000 reply

Good day all.. I noticed from irc there are some unicode errors still occuring on the zope 3 wiki. This is probably related to http://zwiki.org/1330 , I think I forgot to install the latest fixes on wiki.zope.org after testing them. I'm about to do that. I plan to also push the new history implementation we've been testing on zwiki.org. This means starting over with no edit history, from a UI perspective at least, but I hope this will cause no hardship. The new one keeps permanent revisions regardless of packing and is a little nicer to browse. Thanks to Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration who funded this work.

Re: wiki.zope.org heads-up --Simon Michael, Tue, 15 May 2007 05:25:01 +0000 reply

Done. There shouldn't be any unicode errors when browsing wiki.zope.org now, if you find any please let me know. History can be seen in the usual way, by clicking the last edited time or via the y or d access keys. As a bonus, page rendering is now a little faster.

Re: zope 3 wiki cleanup --Simon Michael, Thu, 17 May 2007 03:34:08 +0000 reply

FYI - I installed a cleaned-up http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FrontPage (the old one is at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FrontPage1). I think it's a step forward, hope you agree.

I also cleaned up http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Documentation a bit, but I'll be inclined to let this page wither unless enough there are enough active editors to justify maintaining it as well as the front page.

... --simon, Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:25:34 +0000 reply

I did a little cleanup on side links, page header and front page. Also the ramcache used for the front page has been turned off, hopefully this will not be noticed.

... --simon, Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:37:23 +0000 reply

Subscribed the zope-web mail list to this page (only), so wiki announcements will cc the list. This won't work right away but it seems like a good direction.

... --simon, Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:01:54 +0000 reply

Hey there Kevin.. I'd like to put that new feed icon to the right of the recent changes link, if you see a way please do.

... --simon, Sun, 30 Sep 2007 05:00:51 +0000 reply

An anti-spam feature which was slowing down google indexing of fast-changing pages has been fixed. Pages like FoliageSprint should now appear in google quickly.

... --simon, Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:10:54 +0000 reply

The zope3 wiki was inaccessible at some point last night, cf http://wiki.zope.org/AboutThisSite#bottom .

... --simon, Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:45:49 +0000 reply

I rebuilt the page hierarchy cache to fix a reparent error. This means the wiki contents are now alphabetized.

... --simon, Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:07:02 +0000 reply

A slight skin tweak for the wiki. Serif font, anyone ?

... --simon, Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:40:47 +0000 reply

I think we want a "3" in this wiki's logo, could someone with fresh graphic skills add it ?

... --simon, Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:11:01 +0000 reply

Trying less of the funky dl/dt/dd styling. I note we're using definition lists as headings which isn't right.

... --simon, Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:22:46 +0000 reply

Reduced whitespace around the page title a bit.

... --simon, Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:52:49 +0000 reply

A useful change for me personally, since I like access keys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accesskeys) a lot, deprecated or not - the zope 3 wiki skin no longer has duplicate access key definitions, which means they work again in Firefox 3 without having to press the enter key, so in both Firefox 3 and Safari 3 you just press control-KEY. As a reminder, here are the keys available:

Wiki controls:

f
go to the front page
n
go to the next page
p
go to the previous page
u
go up
c
wiki contents
r
recent changes
o
options
h
help
i
wiki index (if we had one, which we don't)
s
focus search form

Page controls:

m
mail subscription
b
backlinks (related pages)
y
page history
d
page diff
e
edit this page
x
external edit this page
v
return to main page view

... --simon, Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:07:14 +0000 reply

PS for clarity: all the above are available at least on the main page view, but not necessarily on other views. That would require more cleanup.

... --simon, Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:29:29 +0000 reply

Fixed a bug that was breaking at least one page (NewTALESExpr).

... --simon, Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:25:12 +0000 reply

Made restructured text the default markup for new pages.

... --simon, Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:48:35 +0000 reply

I have updated Zope3Wiki and DocsCleanup, I hope you agree it's an improvement. Feedback and help welcome.

... --simon, Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:48:11 +0000 reply

I undid some vandalism (page deletions) from a few hours ago.

... --d2m, Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:06:50 +0000 reply

added the wikipage creation time to the page byline-section - the changes are in zope3/content.pt (cf http://rafb.net/p/sPT06r15.html)

... --Simon Michael, Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:06:56 +0000 reply

I see.. different templates here. Thanks! I've added the same to the default skin in Zwiki-unstable.



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